A New Beginning - Our 1992 Russian Federation

I don't think we will ever have a 3.0 TFR, maybe in maslim areas, but not in the whole country. Russia is already a highly industrial and urban society and our TFR will be under replacement wanting or not, there is any developed country in OTL that rose the TFR above replacement for much long, in fact, the richer the country, lower the TFR
We don't need a long-term 3.0 fertility, just something like 2.1 or 2.2. Pre-Gorbachev, the Slavic SSRs had fertility rates at or only slightly below replacement level, with highly industrial and urban societies. There's no reason that we can't achieve a sustainable fertility rate, if we're willing to do more than tinker with education and tax rates. Even in the ultra-liberal modern West, if women actually had the number of kids they say they want, we'd have above replacement fertility. Now, Russia isn't the West, yes, it's more conservative, which should make things easier in terms of fixing fertility. I see no reason why a mix of economic changes and legal-cultural arm-twisting couldn't achieve a sustainable fertility rate in the long term.
 
I don't think we will ever have a 3.0 TFR, maybe in muslim areas, but not in the whole country. Russia is already a highly industrial and urban society and our TFR will be under replacement wanting or not, there is any developed country in OTL that rose the TFR above replacement for much long, in fact, the richer the country, lower the TFR
I'd actually say we can manage at least 2.6 a few years on the trot. If we look at Kazakhstan, their TFR fell to 1.8 in '99. Today it stands at 3.05 (3.32 in 2021).

Additionally, we have taken a more religious turn toward the orthodox church and are pressuring them to use their money to encourage people to return to the church as well as organise many charity actions to use their money wisely. Since we are looking at an assimilationist policy, a lot of folks arriving from Central Asia are irreligious, even with a muslim background, who can likely be encouraged to come to church to maintain appearances more than anything else. It likely won't matter whether they believe in god/religion all that much as if done correctly the church can regain its position as the centre of the community. All this will be coupled with sermons all highlighting the need to be fruitful and multiply (as that was likely agreed upon behind the scenes) which the immigrants will likely end up following too (we'll be creating an environment within communities that looks favourably on many children). Combining this with solid economic growth and very decent pro-natal policies will give us quite a boom.

And on the last point about richer country = lower TFR; have a look at the TFR rates in Western Europe before the 2008 economic crash. In Britain for example, the TFR declined to 1.655 in 2003 but rose back up to 1.862 by 2008 in a period of solid economic growth. This is mirrored across other nations. The TFR in rich countries by and large depends on whether they are undergoing real economic growth/boom or not, as well as what child-friendly policies are in place. Another example is the US in 1935 went from a TFR of 2.19 to a peak of 3.78 in 1957 due to the economic boom! So if we manage an economic boom we could look to go from 1.55 to something like 3.05 for a few years (10-20 years) before it inevitably drops off as the economic growth stabilises.

We don't need a long-term 3.0 fertility, just something like 2.1 or 2.2. Pre-Gorbachev, the Slavic SSRs had fertility rates at or only slightly below replacement level, with highly industrial and urban societies. There's no reason that we can't achieve a sustainable fertility rate, if we're willing to do more than tinker with education and tax rates. Even in the ultra-liberal modern West, if women actually had the number of kids they say they want, we'd have above replacement fertility. Now, Russia isn't the West, yes, it's more conservative, which should make things easier in terms of fixing fertility. I see no reason why a mix of economic changes and legal-cultural arm-twisting couldn't achieve a sustainable fertility rate in the long term.
Very true we don't need it for the long term. But it sure would be nice for a few years hahaha! I definitely think by injecting economic growth, religiosity growth and hope we'll be well on our way to some solid TFR rates.
 
I'd actually say we can manage at least 2.6 a few years on the trot. If we look at Kazakhstan, their TFR fell to 1.8 in '99. Today it stands at 3.05 (3.32 in 2021).

Additionally, we have taken a more religious turn toward the orthodox church and are pressuring them to use their money to encourage people to return to the church as well as organise many charity actions to use their money wisely. Since we are looking at an assimilationist policy, a lot of folks arriving from Central Asia are irreligious, even with a muslim background, who can likely be encouraged to come to church to maintain appearances more than anything else. It likely won't matter whether they believe in god/religion all that much as if done correctly the church can regain its position as the centre of the community. All this will be coupled with sermons all highlighting the need to be fruitful and multiply (as that was likely agreed upon behind the scenes) which the immigrants will likely end up following too (we'll be creating an environment within communities that looks favourably on many children). Combining this with solid economic growth and very decent pro-natal policies will give us quite a boom.

And on the last point about richer country = lower TFR; have a look at the TFR rates in Western Europe before the 2008 economic crash. In Britain for example, the TFR declined to 1.655 in 2003 but rose back up to 1.862 by 2008 in a period of solid economic growth. This is mirrored across other nations. The TFR in rich countries by and large depends on whether they are undergoing real economic growth/boom or not, as well as what child-friendly policies are in place. Another example is the US in 1935 went from a TFR of 2.19 to a peak of 3.78 in 1957 due to the economic boom! So if we manage an economic boom we could look to go from 1.55 to something like 3.05 for a few years (10-20 years) before it inevitably drops off as the economic growth stabilises.


Very true we don't need it for the long term. But it sure would be nice for a few years hahaha! I definitely think by injecting economic growth, religiosity growth and hope we'll be well on our way to some solid TFR rates.
I think that it would be doable to achieve fertility rate around 2.4 - 2.6, but I will leave it up to you
 
True, but instead of falling compared to OTL, we are setting ourselves up for an incredible population explosion and likely retaining either 6th or 7th position. If things keep improving and we literally just follow the OTL TFR but with +0.4 (due to difference between OTL and ATL TFR in 1999) our growth is going to be massive. And we already know our TFR is going to shoot up higher than that - potentially touching 3.0 at some point over the next 20 years. We will definitely be overtaking Brazil. Compare OTL 1992 and 2009 in the thumbnails below. There is a whole new generation whose numbers are still healthy in '92 who will be coming of age over a period of Russia Economic Growth that promises to be unlike anything Russia has ever seen. OTL 2009 is going to look like a horror to those within ATL 2009!

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No worries at all mate! I can give it a crack lol. Although maybe we should do it every 5 years for more dramatic effect hahaha?

These are actually wonderful numbers. Also i can see this Russia being quite scary to some people with good living standards, technologically developed and with fast growing population. It's definitely a high cry from what West is used to when dealing with Russia.

I also support this stance. Let's accept those willing to work and contribute to development of Russia, and welfare/social benefits tourist can go to Western Europe.

I agree, we should limit immigration to mostly culturally compatible countries and more importantly to the people willing to integrate into our society.
 
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I would say mass migration would happen no matter what considering how long the Russian border is and how many ways there are to get across. I would also say the reason Western Europe had such a hard time is that they never took a solid stance on the matter making things difficult for everyone. Russia can have an have an assimilating policy avoiding many of the issues since people will either assimilate or move to western Europe where ther is more freedom.

Really Russia can handle things better because it's always going to be a major issue that will happen either way. They might as well take advantage of the situation.
 
@Imp With those numbers and the GDP we can actually go to a per capita number. That means we can calculate how big the gap is for an average Russian and the west, but also how interesting we are for outsourcing. Ideally Russia will be the near shore India/China of the IT world.
 
@Imp With those numbers and the GDP we can actually go to a per capita number. That means we can calculate how big the gap is for an average Russian and the west, but also how interesting we are for outsourcing. Ideally Russia will be the near shore India/China of the IT world.
Current GDP per capita for Russia would be around $5,700 - as comparison Germany has around 28,000$
 
Eurasian civilization
Historical Roots of Euroasian Civilization is a book written by Dimitri Lebedev. It outlines the proof of existence of Euroasian civilization beyond Russian civilization and advocates its continuity. According to Dimitri Euroasian civilization had existed beyond Russian civilization, a novel thought in contrast to the established historical narrative advocates the concept of Russian world, or stand alone Russian civilization.

According to Lebedev Euroasian Civilization and European Civilization are sister civilizations that have the same roots in Hellenistic Greece, later Greco-Roman civilization all the way until the fall of Western Roman Empire in 476 AD which saw many barbaric tribes setting up their own Kingdoms that would later come to become Western Europen states that would define European civilization. But for Lebedev true roots of Euroasian Civilization lie in East and Eastern Roman that would following Arab conquests of Sassanid Empire and much of Roman Africa and Levant signal end of antiquity and beginnings of Greek dominated Euroasian Civilization centered in Asia Minor and the Balkans. This civilization would be defined by Ortodox faith and Greek alphabet , these would later find its way into various Slavic tribe's with Cyrillic alphabet being based on Greek alphabet and with conversion of Slavic tribe's, most importantly Kievan Rus under Vladimir the Great to Ortodox faith.

This religious and cultural uniqueness is what differentiate Euroasian Civilization from Europen civilization, besides geographic position of Euroasian civilization on the edges of European Continent and this difference would be a basis for conflict between these two civilizations as they competed for influence and resources against European civilization and against each others. Another point for Euroasian Civilization was its conquest by Mongols for Kievan Rus and Ottomans for Eastern Roman Empire. This would result in Orthodox part of Euroasian civilization to be cut away from European civilization and while it would mean prolonged period of decline it would also help these society's to develop independently. This would also result in cultural exchange between conquered and the conquerors that would later form basis for Euroasination of various Turkic people's as according to Lebedev Central Asian steppes had a touch with both European and Asian civilizations making them into a periphery of Euroasian Civilization.

Mongol conquest of Kievan Rus would also be a finalization of shift of Eastern Slavic centre of civilization from South ( Kiev ) to Novograd and later Moscow forming unique Russian identity down the line.

This would brings us into the Russian epoch of Euroasian Civilization which would take the centre of Euroasian civilization away from Constantinople Balkans and Asia Minor into the Eastern Europe. Russia would later in its later incarnations define Euroasian culture and spread it across much of Northern Euroasia and bring the southern periphery of Central Asia firmly into the Euroasian sphere through conquests, this predominantly Russian, Pan Slavic form of Euroasian Civilization would remain all until Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and it can be sumerized in three periods. Muscovy period where Euroasian Civilization was freely practiced by the elites , this period would last all the way until ascension of Peter the Great where we would enter Imperial, or Western period with attempt of Russia to Westernize by following in footsteps of European Civilization and denying its Euroasian heritage, but it would still hold on its Euroasian character regardless. Following Crimean War and Berlin Congress we would see awakening of Euroasian thought in Russian and beginnings of early Euroasian philosophical though, something which would end with coming of Communists to power.

Communist Period would give a new chapter to Euroasian civilization which would result in a partial shift away from Ortodox , Pan Slavic and Russian centric Euroasianism and result in partial revival of other Euroasian cultures within the borders of Soviet Union (this period would also be significant for birth of identity of Central Asian states and spread of Cyrillic alphabet to these state's). But this period would also be defined by religious and cultural suppression where Communism would seek to become a unifying force for various Euroasian cultures as well as period of attempted Sovietization of Euroasian culture with occasional reversals that would result in partial revival of national freedoms, this would ultimately end with fall of Soviet Union after which newly reborn Russian State would once again become centre of Euroasian civilization.

Well here's promised outline of Euroasian Civilization and my attempt to compress over thousand years of history into one coherent whole @panpiotr
 
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I believe that i bit more than i can chew with this as it was a nightmare to try and sort all these into one coherent whole.
Long story short opposed to traditional Euroasianism which sees Russia as centre of Euroasian Dimitri Lebedev seeks continuity of Euroasian Civilization and sees Russia as part of Euroasian civilization, integral part but still a part of it. Eurasian civilization is defined by Ortodox faith and Cyrillic script as well as Russian language which is spoken through most of the ex Union creating basis for civilizational unity and geographically it econpasses Balkans, former Soviet space and Türkiye.
 
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I believe that i bit more than i can chew with this as it was a nightmare to try and sort all these into one coherent whole.
Long story short opposed to traditional Euroasianism which sees Russia as centre of Euroasian Dimitri Lebedev seeks continuity of Euroasian Civilization and sees Russia as part of Euroasian civilization, integral part but still a part of it. Eurasian civilization is defined by Ortodox faith and Cyrillic script as well as Russian language which is spoken through most of the ex Union creating basis for civilizational unity and geographically it econpasses Balkans, former Soviet space and Türkiye.
Well, it's a decent start.
 
Historical Roots of Euroasian Civilization is a book written by Dimitri Lebedev. It outlines the proof of existence of Euroasian civilization beyond Russian civilization and advocates its continuity. According to Dimitri Euroasian civilization had existed beyond Russian civilization, a novel thought in contrast to the established historical narrative advocates the concept of Russian world, or stand alone Russian civilization.

According to Lebedev Euroasian Civilization and European Civilization are sister civilizations that have the same roots in Hellenistic Greece, later Greco-Roman civilization all the way until the fall of Western Roman Empire in 476 AD which saw many barbaric tribes setting up their own Kingdoms that would later come to become Western Europen states that would define European civilization. But for Lebedev true roots of Euroasian Civilization lie in East and Eastern Roman that would following Arab conquests of Sassanid Empire and much of Roman Africa and Levant signal end of antiquity and beginnings of Greek dominated Euroasian Civilization centered in Asia Minor and the Balkans. This civilization would be defined by Ortodox faith and Greek alphabet , these would later find its way into various Slavic tribe's with Cyrillic alphabet being based on Greek alphabet and with conversion of Slavic tribe's, most importantly Kievan Rus under Vladimir the Great to Ortodox faith.

This religious and cultural uniqueness is what differentiate Euroasian Civilization from Europen civilization, besides geographic position of Euroasian civilization on the edges of European Continent and this difference would be a basis for conflict between these two civilizations as they competed for influence and resources against European civilization and against each others. Another point for Euroasian Civilization was its conquest by Mongols for Kievan Rus and Ottomans for Eastern Roman Empire. This would result in Orthodox part of Euroasian civilization to be cut away from European civilization and while it would mean prolonged period of decline it would also help these society's to develop independently. This would also result in cultural exchange between conquered and the conquerors that would later form basis for Euroasination of various Turkic people's as according to Lebedev Central Asian steppes had a touch with both European and Asian civilizations making them into a periphery of Euroasian Civilization.

Mongol conquest of Kievan Rus would also be a finalization of shift of Eastern Slavic centre of civilization from South ( Kiev ) to Novograd and later Moscow forming unique Russian identity down the line.

This would brings us into the Russian epoch of Euroasian Civilization which would take the centre of Euroasian civilization away from Constantinople Balkans and Asia Minor into the Eastern Europe. Russia would later in its later incarnations define Euroasian culture and spread it across much of Northern Euroasia and bring the southern periphery of Central Asia firmly into the Euroasian sphere through conquests, this predominantly Russian, Pan Slavic form of Euroasian Civilization would remain all until Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and it can be sumerized in three periods. Muscovy period where Euroasian Civilization was freely practiced by the elites , this period would last all the way until ascension of Peter the Great where we would enter Imperial, or Western period with attempt of Russia to Westernize by following in footsteps of European Civilization and denying its Euroasian heritage, but it would still hold on its Euroasian character regardless. Following Crimean War and Berlin Congress we would see awakening of Euroasian thought in Russian and beginnings of early Euroasian philosophical though, something which would end with coming of Communists to power.

Communist Period would give a new chapter to Euroasian civilization which would result in a partial shift away from Ortodox , Pan Slavic and Russian centric Euroasianism and result in partial revival of other Euroasian cultures within the borders of Soviet Union (this period would also be significant for birth of identity of Central Asian states and spread of Cyrillic alphabet to these state's). But this period would also be defined by religious and cultural suppression where Communism would seek to become a unifying force for various Euroasian cultures as well as period of attempted Sovietization of Euroasian culture with occasional reversals that would result in partial revival of national freedoms, this would ultimately end with fall of Soviet Union after which newly reborn Russian State would once again become centre of Euroasian civilization.

Well here's promised outline of Euroasian Civilization and my attempt to compress over thousand years of history into one coherent whole @panpiotr
Great!
 
Historical Roots of Euroasian Civilization is a book written by Dimitri Lebedev. It outlines the proof of existence of Euroasian civilization beyond Russian civilization and advocates its continuity. According to Dimitri Euroasian civilization had existed beyond Russian civilization, a novel thought in contrast to the established historical narrative advocates the concept of Russian world, or stand alone Russian civilization.

According to Lebedev Euroasian Civilization and European Civilization are sister civilizations that have the same roots in Hellenistic Greece, later Greco-Roman civilization all the way until the fall of Western Roman Empire in 476 AD which saw many barbaric tribes setting up their own Kingdoms that would later come to become Western Europen states that would define European civilization. But for Lebedev true roots of Euroasian Civilization lie in East and Eastern Roman that would following Arab conquests of Sassanid Empire and much of Roman Africa and Levant signal end of antiquity and beginnings of Greek dominated Euroasian Civilization centered in Asia Minor and the Balkans. This civilization would be defined by Ortodox faith and Greek alphabet , these would later find its way into various Slavic tribe's with Cyrillic alphabet being based on Greek alphabet and with conversion of Slavic tribe's, most importantly Kievan Rus under Vladimir the Great to Ortodox faith.

This religious and cultural uniqueness is what differentiate Euroasian Civilization from Europen civilization, besides geographic position of Euroasian civilization on the edges of European Continent and this difference would be a basis for conflict between these two civilizations as they competed for influence and resources against European civilization and against each others. Another point for Euroasian Civilization was its conquest by Mongols for Kievan Rus and Ottomans for Eastern Roman Empire. This would result in Orthodox part of Euroasian civilization to be cut away from European civilization and while it would mean prolonged period of decline it would also help these society's to develop independently. This would also result in cultural exchange between conquered and the conquerors that would later form basis for Euroasination of various Turkic people's as according to Lebedev Central Asian steppes had a touch with both European and Asian civilizations making them into a periphery of Euroasian Civilization.

Mongol conquest of Kievan Rus would also be a finalization of shift of Eastern Slavic centre of civilization from South ( Kiev ) to Novograd and later Moscow forming unique Russian identity down the line.

This would brings us into the Russian epoch of Euroasian Civilization which would take the centre of Euroasian civilization away from Constantinople Balkans and Asia Minor into the Eastern Europe. Russia would later in its later incarnations define Euroasian culture and spread it across much of Northern Euroasia and bring the southern periphery of Central Asia firmly into the Euroasian sphere through conquests, this predominantly Russian, Pan Slavic form of Euroasian Civilization would remain all until Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and it can be sumerized in three periods. Muscovy period where Euroasian Civilization was freely practiced by the elites , this period would last all the way until ascension of Peter the Great where we would enter Imperial, or Western period with attempt of Russia to Westernize by following in footsteps of European Civilization and denying its Euroasian heritage, but it would still hold on its Euroasian character regardless. Following Crimean War and Berlin Congress we would see awakening of Euroasian thought in Russian and beginnings of early Euroasian philosophical though, something which would end with coming of Communists to power.

Communist Period would give a new chapter to Euroasian civilization which would result in a partial shift away from Ortodox , Pan Slavic and Russian centric Euroasianism and result in partial revival of other Euroasian cultures within the borders of Soviet Union (this period would also be significant for birth of identity of Central Asian states and spread of Cyrillic alphabet to these state's). But this period would also be defined by religious and cultural suppression where Communism would seek to become a unifying force for various Euroasian cultures as well as period of attempted Sovietization of Euroasian culture with occasional reversals that would result in partial revival of national freedoms, this would ultimately end with fall of Soviet Union after which newly reborn Russian State would once again become centre of Euroasian civilization.

Well here's promised outline of Euroasian Civilization and my attempt to compress over thousand years of history into one coherent whole @panpiotr
Wouldn't Eurasian Civilization have more to do with steppe tribes like the Aryans, Scythians, Huns, Tartars, and Mongols? What you have is better described as Byzantine Civilization or Orthodox Civilization
 
Historical Roots of Euroasian Civilization is a book written by Dimitri Lebedev. It outlines the proof of existence of Euroasian civilization beyond Russian civilization and advocates its continuity. According to Dimitri Euroasian civilization had existed beyond Russian civilization, a novel thought in contrast to the established historical narrative advocates the concept of Russian world, or stand alone Russian civilization.

According to Lebedev Euroasian Civilization and European Civilization are sister civilizations that have the same roots in Hellenistic Greece, later Greco-Roman civilization all the way until the fall of Western Roman Empire in 476 AD which saw many barbaric tribes setting up their own Kingdoms that would later come to become Western Europen states that would define European civilization. But for Lebedev true roots of Euroasian Civilization lie in East and Eastern Roman that would following Arab conquests of Sassanid Empire and much of Roman Africa and Levant signal end of antiquity and beginnings of Greek dominated Euroasian Civilization centered in Asia Minor and the Balkans. This civilization would be defined by Ortodox faith and Greek alphabet , these would later find its way into various Slavic tribe's with Cyrillic alphabet being based on Greek alphabet and with conversion of Slavic tribe's, most importantly Kievan Rus under Vladimir the Great to Ortodox faith.

This religious and cultural uniqueness is what differentiate Euroasian Civilization from Europen civilization, besides geographic position of Euroasian civilization on the edges of European Continent and this difference would be a basis for conflict between these two civilizations as they competed for influence and resources against European civilization and against each others. Another point for Euroasian Civilization was its conquest by Mongols for Kievan Rus and Ottomans for Eastern Roman Empire. This would result in Orthodox part of Euroasian civilization to be cut away from European civilization and while it would mean prolonged period of decline it would also help these society's to develop independently. This would also result in cultural exchange between conquered and the conquerors that would later form basis for Euroasination of various Turkic people's as according to Lebedev Central Asian steppes had a touch with both European and Asian civilizations making them into a periphery of Euroasian Civilization.

Mongol conquest of Kievan Rus would also be a finalization of shift of Eastern Slavic centre of civilization from South ( Kiev ) to Novograd and later Moscow forming unique Russian identity down the line.

This would brings us into the Russian epoch of Euroasian Civilization which would take the centre of Euroasian civilization away from Constantinople Balkans and Asia Minor into the Eastern Europe. Russia would later in its later incarnations define Euroasian culture and spread it across much of Northern Euroasia and bring the southern periphery of Central Asia firmly into the Euroasian sphere through conquests, this predominantly Russian, Pan Slavic form of Euroasian Civilization would remain all until Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and it can be sumerized in three periods. Muscovy period where Euroasian Civilization was freely practiced by the elites , this period would last all the way until ascension of Peter the Great where we would enter Imperial, or Western period with attempt of Russia to Westernize by following in footsteps of European Civilization and denying its Euroasian heritage, but it would still hold on its Euroasian character regardless. Following Crimean War and Berlin Congress we would see awakening of Euroasian thought in Russian and beginnings of early Euroasian philosophical though, something which would end with coming of Communists to power.

Communist Period would give a new chapter to Euroasian civilization which would result in a partial shift away from Ortodox , Pan Slavic and Russian centric Euroasianism and result in partial revival of other Euroasian cultures within the borders of Soviet Union (this period would also be significant for birth of identity of Central Asian states and spread of Cyrillic alphabet to these state's). But this period would also be defined by religious and cultural suppression where Communism would seek to become a unifying force for various Euroasian cultures as well as period of attempted Sovietization of Euroasian culture with occasional reversals that would result in partial revival of national freedoms, this would ultimately end with fall of Soviet Union after which newly reborn Russian State would once again become centre of Euroasian civilization.

Well here's promised outline of Euroasian Civilization and my attempt to compress over thousand years of history into one coherent whole @panpiotr
Pretty much as @Art Vandelay said, it's just the Russian version of the Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire...
 
Any one have any ideas for pop culture/culture for Russia in this TL?

Considering how Russia is still behind the west in this TL they would likely still be a major area for digital piracy as OTL and will so have a lot of internet culture dominated by said piracy. So probably a lot of computer games with RPGs, online shooters, RTS games and so on dominating like OTL. In terms of media I would say Anime and Manga would also become a major area of entertainment as people pirate and distribute the latest anime/manga on the net leading to the rise of the regions own Otaku and weebs.

Outside of that I guess Russia will have an impact on being a larger source of consumers than OTL with more money to burn and so will have more products made for them. As I already said we might see a larger FPS, RPG, RTS market compared to OTL with an earlier E-Sports scene as America gets another major competitor outside of Korea. Japan would also have a larger market as video games get larger support to capture the new Russian market.

As Russian produced pop culture considering that the creation of t.A.T.u. is near I can see Russia trying their own hand at creating their own R-pop to compete with American/Korean pop music. How it would actually look I have no idea.
 
Wouldn't Eurasian Civilization have more to do with steppe tribes like the Aryans, Scythians, Huns, Tartars, and Mongols? What you have is better described as Byzantine Civilization or Orthodox Civilization

Generally it's just a fun theory. But as Ortodox state one can say that Russia itself is part of the Ortodox civilization as well. So i just merged both civilizations into one as both are kinda stuck between east and west and are in some measure influenced by each others. I do acknowledge that i focused to much on Byzantine/Ortodox part and ignored mentioned groups.
 
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Generally it's just a fun theory. But as Ortodox state one can say that Russia itself is part of the Ortodox civilization as well. So i just merged both civilizations into one as both are kinda stuck between east and west and are in some measure influenced by each others.
I mean, Russian civilization is closely related to Byzantine, and they're arguably the same civilization, just that's not what I'd normally consider "Eurasian Civilization", which is more evocative of the steppe tribes (to the extent that Huns or Mongols can be called a civilization).

I'd define the descent of post-Roman civilizations as follows:
Late Classical + German tribes + Catholic Church = Western/Frankish/Faustian civilization
Late Classical + Orthodox Church = Byzantine civilization
Byzantine Church + Slavic tribes + Tartar Khanate = Russian civilization
 
Byzantine Church + Slavic tribes + Tartar Khanate = Russian civilization

That was my line of thought as well. I would say that i generally failed to truly synchronize both civilizations by overly focusing on Ortodox part and subsequent Russian role there which is why Lebedev's book won't be a bestseller.
Any one have any ideas for pop culture/culture for Russia in this TL?

Considering how Russia is still behind the west in this TL they would likely still be a major area for digital piracy as OTL and will so have a lot of internet culture dominated by said piracy. So probably a lot of computer games with RPGs, online shooters, RTS games and so on dominating like OTL. In terms of media I would say Anime and Manga would also become a major area of entertainment as people pirate and distribute the latest anime/manga on the net leading to the rise of the regions own Otaku and weebs.

Outside of that I guess Russia will have an impact on being a larger source of consumers than OTL with more money to burn and so will have more products made for them. As I already said we might see a larger FPS, RPG, RTS market compared to OTL with an earlier E-Sports scene as America gets another major competitor outside of Korea. Japan would also have a larger market as video games get larger support to capture the new Russian market.

As Russian produced pop culture considering that the creation of t.A.T.u. is near I can see Russia trying their own hand at creating their own R-pop to compete with American/Korean pop music. How it would actually look I have no idea.

That kinda seems realistic. Will we see Russian version of Anime? Or some sort of revival of Russian animation?

I would also imagine that Russia will eventually start its own game development industry down the line.
 
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That kinda seems realistic. Will we see Russian version of Anime? Or some sort of revival of Russian animation?
Unlikely considering how animation is seen across the western/European world. They would probably keep making cartoons for children with stuff like Masha and The Bear being popular international cartoons like Peppa-Pig.
I would also imagine that Russia will eventually start its own game development industry down the line.
They did have such an industry OTL so they should have one at this point. Again a lot of mods leading to a lot of FPS, RTS, and RPG clones. Probably the successor to the original Fallout will be made considering how Fallout went before Bethesda.
 
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