America's Funniest President: Mo Udall Presidency & Beyond
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Pretty much. Outside of Reagan causing a domino effect that led to a secular revolution in Iran, US was pretty hands off with Middle East and the wheels turned so they had to resolve it themselves through different reasons.
Autumn 2000- Olympics and Orbits
Autumn 2000- Olympics and Orbits
Soyuz spacecraft lifted off from the Baikonur Cosmodrome to deliver first crew to International Space Station
Soyuz spacecraft lifted off from the Baikonur Cosmodrome to deliver first crew to International Space Station
As the weather was cooling down over with autumn coming, election season would be heating up as the presidential elections were coming in closer. After all, this would only be the second election with the new system in place and with Clinton having a fairer shot than Perot, many are wondering what could happen if none of the candidates would reach the threshold needed to get victory in the first round, then the "instant-runoff" part would kick in, as candidates would be eliminated, but those votes would instead have their secondary or tertiary choices considered and then rolled into the totals, with it ongoing until a victor was achieved. In fact, this would cause an increased amount of attention over for the American Green Party, the Libretarian Party and a couple of fringe independents to run, as the new rules would enable to get into debates if meeting the threshold for support without finances being a major concern for these matters. As such, the election cycle was the biggest yet as this would truly put not just the new system to the test, but the various major parties as well. After all, while the Democrats and Republicans relied on seniority and the unfamilarity of the new system to get recognizable results, it was here that it would be put to the test on what may come next. Coinciding with the rise of a new generation of politicians who would cut their teeth in with the new system and of the changing of the times, who could say what was coming? President Specter was the favorite to win though some have noted some mild exhaustion from him and served a bit of a reminder for his age. Bill Bradley was coming along strong and trying to channel the energy of the past and while a younger man, he didn't seem to get as much interest as the Democrats were hoping for. Bill Clinton meanwhile began utilizing a strategy that would become known as "triangulation", presenting a position between the sides of the political spectrum and something that was catching on with the rest of the United Central Party.
This was not the only bit of news as around the world, all sorts of events and revelations were happening. World leaders would go and attend the Millenium Summit over at UN Headquarters, a meeting between many world leaders to discuss the role of the United Nations for the new millenium. [1] Goals were established to tackle issues like global poverty, the imbalance of wealth between various regions, especially those affected by colonial exploitation, tackling environmental problems in a multitude of levels and means along with other issues such as with globalization and the like. [2] Given all that has happened in the past couple decades, there is a grand sense of hop and optimism for a better tomorrow to be made and within reach. All the while, nations needing to work together to handle all sorts of situations going on right now, such as the troubles over in Europe. After days of heavy rain, western Europe would see varying levels of flooding, especially over in the UK. Several regions of Atlantic Europe from France to Norway received double their average rainfall and there were severe floods and landslides in the southern Alps. The UK meanwhile had to deal with a series of cyclones over one after another. [3] It served over as a reminder on living with the environment properly and taking into account all the information and tools to montor it, especially in the upcoming years.
There would be plenty more celeberations of global unity over onto the world. The 2000 Olympics over in Beijing were being held and there was alot to take in here. From Kurdistan's greater number of teams and athletes alongside Armenia's to a growing variety of new events, China helped pull out all the stops over for the new millenium's games and a glorious time would be had by all, especially with nations winning their first medals such as Kurdistan. 2004's Olympics would be planned to be held over in Athens, Greece while 2008 would see the bidding process begin next year. [1] As to continue this celeberation of cooperation and of the human spirit, late Fall would see the beginnings of the usage of the International Space Station as its first crew begins working and living there. With all of these and more, it truly felt like the shining beginning of a new era and even with the troubles that were coming, there is a grand sense of hope as people were looking forward, wondering what would be coming next.
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[1]- Information and phrasing from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000
[2]- Information and phrasing from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Summit
[3]- Information and phrasing from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn_2000_Western_Europe_floods
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another great update!
i am curious as to the us debt situation rn, even stuff like the debt ceiling
i am curious as to the us debt situation rn, even stuff like the debt ceiling
Well, that’s a bit mixed. On the one hand, you do see the creation of a universal single payer healthcare system along with a massive investment in modernizing infrastructure, especially rails and power.
On the other hand, there are no massive Reagan taxcuts on the rich so the government would have alot more income from that and there also wasn’t the large allocation of money into the military like OTL.
Fossil fuel subsidies are replaced with taxing petrol and other fossil fuel companies and so on.
Debt is a secondary focus though as everything is being finished built and so on, things should be settling down and them trying to figure that out.
I thank you for your support and welcome further discussion! C:
I have a strong feeling Specter's gonna see four more years in the White House, and I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton outperforms PerotAnd of course, last chance to try and guess who could win!
I believe you have it a bit confused, Perot isn't in the running this time around. Clinton is the Unizens nominee while Bill Bradley is the Democratic one. I do agree that Specter will probably win another term in office and I think that the Unizens may actually unseat the Democrats from their current second place pedestal.
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Yeah, Perot pretty much retired from politics outside of maintaining some form of leadership role within the party.
I mean Clinton is gonna perform better as the Unizen nominee in 2000 than Perot did in 1996
Oh I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I do agree that Clinton will probably do better Perot did in '96 and likely even beat out Bradley for second place.
2000 US Elections
2000 US Elections
While 1996 was the first election where the new electoral system would be used, 2000 would be where the system would really be put through its paces. After all, with how new it was, people in 1996 voted similarly with how they would've if the changes weren't implemented. However, by 2000, the situation is beginning to change. After all, people were getting used to the new system with local elections, midterms and the like. Additionally, with the new system now in place, political parties and organizations now began using new ideas and techniques to reach out to voters to vote for them. With IRV now in place, the situation was different and new strategies needed to be considered. After all, adherence to one party would become less viable and the minor parties now had an increased sway since the larger parties would be secondary or tertiary choices over on the ballet with these voters. Those voting for the major parties in the meanwhile were no longer confined to that and could support smaller parties if they wanted to,
The big sign of the changes was the growing success of the United Central Party after all.
Despite the insecurity over Ross Perot's departure from politics and on who could lead the party to potential victory, it kept moving forward and new champions were coming into the fold. From neoliberal Democrats who felt sidelined from major successes to Republicans who were disillusioned with the party's reputation from the past decades or viewed it as a relic, these figures would flock over to the UCP, especially from state politicians. And they were bringing in their voters as well, growing the party more and more.
Republicans felt confident in their chances at retaining the White House. Specter was doing good in the polls and he was pretty well-liked. That said, there was a growing anxiety in the party. Powell didn't show much interest in running and the party still lacked any real leaders to follow up on their successes. A growing number of pundits chalked this up over to the uncertainty of the direction of the party, at least by the old guard. The new blood was apparently codifying a new philosophy for conservatism over in the 21st century though whether that will bear fruit in this term remains to be seen. Additionally, some have noted Specter's own growing exhaustion. Having turned 70, he was now the oldest president the United States have and will be leaving office, regardless of victory or defeat. And the age was showing over on him, especially with the nature of the job. Then there was Specter's own thoughts, having become more reserved on his chances of winning and many believing that he was feeling the exhaustion.
The Democrats would find themselves in a similar boat. While Bill Bradley was doing well and the basketball player turned politician certainly drew in a bit of a crowd, he was not as big a hit with younger voters as many expected him to be. While Bradley was a good example of how the Democrat Party was right now, people were not enthused or excited by what they were offering since it was essentially, more of the same. Beyond this perspective of the party's lack of appeal of the youth, there was the same problem Republicans had regarding successors. While they did have a growing number of potential future candidates such as Russ Feingold and Paul Wellstone, it remained unknown how well they could do or what they could offer beyond what the party already has, as well as future relevancy or even if they wanted to run for that matter. The same structural problems and concerns of the GOP over future relevancy also were haunting the Democrats.
The United Central Party meanwhile were the most confident they were since their inception, but also at their most nervous. This was the first major election without Ross Perot over as the candidate or even as the leader of the party directly. That said, governor Bill Clinton was certainly doing quite well, known for being one of the first big names to go and switch parties. Beyond that, the UCP has been making increasing leaps and bounds over everyone else, becoming a true contender as a major party. So much so that a growing number of voters who are voting for a more minor party has the UCP candidate as their secondary choice, fueled by a hope of a third party triumph. Additionally, beyond being the youngest candidate and the first baby boomer one, Bill Clinton's triangulation strategy was working well when it was coming to the debates with the other two major competitors. Of course, he was still the underdog compared at the same time. Another advantage was Al Gore, who was arguably the most prominent of the running mates, especially with his championing and promotion of informaton technology and further ambitions with funding cutting-edge tech.
Over in the House and Senate, the Republicans and Democrats would both lose seats to some independents and even a couple of Green Party candidates along with the increase for the United Central Party.
It was coming down to the wire and it was unknown if Specter, or any of the other candidates really, would be able to go and break the threshold needed before having to go to the run-offs. And when the votes were tallied... Specter did not get off to go and reach the theshold that was needed to consider a majority and so began the run-offs. Specter had a modest lead over Clinton and Bradley, but the shocking news saw Clinton beat Bradley by a hair. And then the runoff voting began. The various independent candidates and the Libretarians and the Greens were being knocked out and while it was distributed across the three, a majority was going over to Clinton as part of the "third-party coalition" campaign that started months prior. And then... Bradley, having been beaten by Clinton... would be eliminated and the votes spread. While some went over to the Green Party, a surprising large chunk would go over to Bill Clinton... pushing him ahead.
Bill Clinton and the United Central Party would have done what many though was impossible. A third party victory in the United States. And the Democrats and Republicans both defeated... given a blow that would change everything.
Bill Clinton would become the 43rd President of the United States.
43rd President Bill Clinton & 45th Vice President Albert Gore
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I assume you meant United Citizens, not United Central.
Oh. My. GOSH! I never would've expected a third-party Clinton/Gore presidency!2000 US Elections
While 1996 was the first election where the new electoral system would be used, 2000 would be where the system would really be put through its paces. After all, with how new it was, people in 1996 voted similarly with how they would've if the changes weren't implemented. However, by 2000, the situation is beginning to change. After all, people were getting used to the new system with local elections, midterms and the like. Additionally, with the new system now in place, political parties and organizations now began using new ideas and techniques to reach out to voters to vote for them. With IRV now in place, the situation was different and new strategies needed to be considered. After all, adherence to one party would become less viable and the minor parties now had an increased sway since the larger parties would be secondary or tertiary choices over on the ballet with these voters. Those voting for the major parties in the meanwhile were no longer confined to that and could support smaller parties if they wanted to,
The big sign of the changes was the growing success of the United Central Party after all.
Despite the insecurity over Ross Perot's departure from politics and on who could lead the party to potential victory, it kept moving forward and new champions were coming into the fold. From neoliberal Democrats who felt sidelined from major successes to Republicans who were disillusioned with the party's reputation from the past decades or viewed it as a relic, these figures would flock over to the UCP, especially from state politicians. And they were bringing in their voters as well, growing the party more and more.
Republicans felt confident in their chances at retaining the White House. Specter was doing good in the polls and he was pretty well-liked. That said, there was a growing anxiety in the party. Powell didn't show much interest in running and the party still lacked any real leaders to follow up on their successes. A growing number of pundits chalked this up over to the uncertainty of the direction of the party, at least by the old guard. The new blood was apparently codifying a new philosophy for conservatism over in the 21st century though whether that will bear fruit in this term remains to be seen. Additionally, some have noted Specter's own growing exhaustion. Having turned 70, he was now the oldest president the United States have and will be leaving office, regardless of victory or defeat. And the age was showing over on him, especially with the nature of the job. Then there was Specter's own thoughts, having become more reserved on his chances of winning and many believing that he was feeling the exhaustion.
The Democrats would find themselves in a similar boat. While Bill Bradley was doing well and the basketball player turned politician certainly drew in a bit of a crowd, he was not as big a hit with younger voters as many expected him to be. While Bradley was a good example of how the Democrat Party was right now, people were not enthused or excited by what they were offering since it was essentially, more of the same. Beyond this perspective of the party's lack of appeal of the youth, there was the same problem Republicans had regarding successors. While they did have a growing number of potential future candidates such as Russ Feingold and Paul Wellstone, it remained unknown how well they could do or what they could offer beyond what the party already has, as well as future relevancy or even if they wanted to run for that matter. The same structural problems and concerns of the GOP over future relevancy also were haunting the Democrats.
The United Central Party meanwhile were the most confident they were since their inception, but also at their most nervous. This was the first major election without Ross Perot over as the candidate or even as the leader of the party directly. That said, governor Bill Clinton was certainly doing quite well, known for being one of the first big names to go and switch parties. Beyond that, the UCP has been making increasing leaps and bounds over everyone else, becoming a true contender as a major party. So much so that a growing number of voters who are voting for a more minor party has the UCP candidate as their secondary choice, fueled by a hope of a third party triumph. Additionally, beyond being the youngest candidate and the first baby boomer one, Bill Clinton's triangulation strategy was working well when it was coming to the debates with the other two major competitors. Of course, he was still the underdog compared at the same time. Another advantage was Al Gore, who was arguably the most prominent of the running mates, especially with his championing and promotion of informaton technology and further ambitions with funding cutting-edge tech.
Over in the House and Senate, the Republicans and Democrats would both lose seats to some independents and even a couple of Green Party candidates along with the increase for the United Central Party.
It was coming down to the wire and it was unknown if Specter, or any of the other candidates really, would be able to go and break the threshold needed before having to go to the run-offs. And when the votes were tallied... Specter did not get off to go and reach the theshold that was needed to consider a majority and so began the run-offs. Specter had a modest lead over Clinton and Bradley, but the shocking news saw Clinton beat Bradley by a hair. And then the runoff voting began. The various independent candidates and the Libretarians and the Greens were being knocked out and while it was distributed across the three, a majority was going over to Clinton as part of the "third-party coalition" campaign that started months prior. And then... Bradley, having been beaten by Clinton... would be eliminated and the votes spread. While some went over to the Green Party, a surprising large chunk would go over to Bill Clinton... pushing him ahead.
Bill Clinton and the United Central Party would have done what many though was impossible. A third party victory in the United States. And the Democrats and Republicans both defeated... given a blow that would change everything.
Bill Clinton would become the 43rd President of the United States.
43rd President Bill Clinton & 45th Vice President Albert Gore
They changed their names to United Central a little while ago actually
Oh, I thought they were still known at the United Citizens Party since their members were still called Unizens.
I mean, they still keep calling themselves Unizens, but chaznged the name because of request from the older state part known as United Citizens Party
DAMN what a plot twist! Was not expecting a alternate Bill Clinton and Al Gore to end up getting elected. 😲 I thought for sure Specter would win a second term. Guess this means the end of the two party system. Great job with that twist. Didn't see it coming 👏2000 US Elections
While 1996 was the first election where the new electoral system would be used, 2000 would be where the system would really be put through its paces. After all, with how new it was, people in 1996 voted similarly with how they would've if the changes weren't implemented. However, by 2000, the situation is beginning to change. After all, people were getting used to the new system with local elections, midterms and the like. Additionally, with the new system now in place, political parties and organizations now began using new ideas and techniques to reach out to voters to vote for them. With IRV now in place, the situation was different and new strategies needed to be considered. After all, adherence to one party would become less viable and the minor parties now had an increased sway since the larger parties would be secondary or tertiary choices over on the ballet with these voters. Those voting for the major parties in the meanwhile were no longer confined to that and could support smaller parties if they wanted to,
The big sign of the changes was the growing success of the United Central Party after all.
Despite the insecurity over Ross Perot's departure from politics and on who could lead the party to potential victory, it kept moving forward and new champions were coming into the fold. From neoliberal Democrats who felt sidelined from major successes to Republicans who were disillusioned with the party's reputation from the past decades or viewed it as a relic, these figures would flock over to the UCP, especially from state politicians. And they were bringing in their voters as well, growing the party more and more.
Republicans felt confident in their chances at retaining the White House. Specter was doing good in the polls and he was pretty well-liked. That said, there was a growing anxiety in the party. Powell didn't show much interest in running and the party still lacked any real leaders to follow up on their successes. A growing number of pundits chalked this up over to the uncertainty of the direction of the party, at least by the old guard. The new blood was apparently codifying a new philosophy for conservatism over in the 21st century though whether that will bear fruit in this term remains to be seen. Additionally, some have noted Specter's own growing exhaustion. Having turned 70, he was now the oldest president the United States have and will be leaving office, regardless of victory or defeat. And the age was showing over on him, especially with the nature of the job. Then there was Specter's own thoughts, having become more reserved on his chances of winning and many believing that he was feeling the exhaustion.
The Democrats would find themselves in a similar boat. While Bill Bradley was doing well and the basketball player turned politician certainly drew in a bit of a crowd, he was not as big a hit with younger voters as many expected him to be. While Bradley was a good example of how the Democrat Party was right now, people were not enthused or excited by what they were offering since it was essentially, more of the same. Beyond this perspective of the party's lack of appeal of the youth, there was the same problem Republicans had regarding successors. While they did have a growing number of potential future candidates such as Russ Feingold and Paul Wellstone, it remained unknown how well they could do or what they could offer beyond what the party already has, as well as future relevancy or even if they wanted to run for that matter. The same structural problems and concerns of the GOP over future relevancy also were haunting the Democrats.
The United Central Party meanwhile were the most confident they were since their inception, but also at their most nervous. This was the first major election without Ross Perot over as the candidate or even as the leader of the party directly. That said, governor Bill Clinton was certainly doing quite well, known for being one of the first big names to go and switch parties. Beyond that, the UCP has been making increasing leaps and bounds over everyone else, becoming a true contender as a major party. So much so that a growing number of voters who are voting for a more minor party has the UCP candidate as their secondary choice, fueled by a hope of a third party triumph. Additionally, beyond being the youngest candidate and the first baby boomer one, Bill Clinton's triangulation strategy was working well when it was coming to the debates with the other two major competitors. Of course, he was still the underdog compared at the same time. Another advantage was Al Gore, who was arguably the most prominent of the running mates, especially with his championing and promotion of informaton technology and further ambitions with funding cutting-edge tech.
Over in the House and Senate, the Republicans and Democrats would both lose seats to some independents and even a couple of Green Party candidates along with the increase for the United Central Party.
It was coming down to the wire and it was unknown if Specter, or any of the other candidates really, would be able to go and break the threshold needed before having to go to the run-offs. And when the votes were tallied... Specter did not get off to go and reach the theshold that was needed to consider a majority and so began the run-offs. Specter had a modest lead over Clinton and Bradley, but the shocking news saw Clinton beat Bradley by a hair. And then the runoff voting began. The various independent candidates and the Libretarians and the Greens were being knocked out and while it was distributed across the three, a majority was going over to Clinton as part of the "third-party coalition" campaign that started months prior. And then... Bradley, having been beaten by Clinton... would be eliminated and the votes spread. While some went over to the Green Party, a surprising large chunk would go over to Bill Clinton... pushing him ahead.
Bill Clinton and the United Central Party would have done what many though was impossible. A third party victory in the United States. And the Democrats and Republicans both defeated... given a blow that would change everything.
Bill Clinton would become the 43rd President of the United States.
43rd President Bill Clinton & 45th Vice President Albert Gore