Worst state overall, I guess Mississippi and Alabama have improved drastically.
Marge In Chains, S4 Ep 21 includes what I'm talking about, histories greatest monster.
Speaking of which, how many people remember Jimmy Carter and for what?
America's Funniest President: Mo Udall Presidency & Beyond
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Marge In Chains, S4 Ep 21 includes what I'm talking about, histories greatest monster.
Speaking of which, how many people remember Jimmy Carter and for what?
Pretty much yeah. There's national public healthcare and a renewed focus on infrastucture and so on. As such, it's hard to say what the worst state would be. May be all over the place due to differing economic conditions and so on.
Ahh... all right. Hard to tell there. I am thinking it could be Reagan there.
Jimmy Carter would be remembered as Secretary of State over for both terms of both the Udall and Askew Administrations if I remember correctly.
Also thinking about when in Bart Gets An Elephant, where that elephant goes through the party HQs. I can only imagine how much more chaotic the republican hq would be there. The democratic one would be celebratory, but I wonder what it would exactly look like.
Hmmm... may be night and day though political jokes might be less of a thing for a while because of how one group is overperforming.
I mean, I have a feeling there would be plenty of jokes at this point about how broken the republican party is then. Though I guess there would be very few political jokes to go around in America. I wounder how King of The Hill would change? Would Hank be fighting to keep Strickland Propane open more, how overbearing Hank Hill would be to Bobby? I could see him try to get Bobby interested in driving as superior to public transportation, trying to get Bobby to grill, or maybe trying to get him to join the OSA instead of some other club, though I don't know how much the political events in this timeline would change him. Would Dale be himself, or would he be changed to be less conspiratorial? Would Boomhauer still be a Texas Ranger and womanizer? Would Bill be mentally traumatized with Lenore's leave, or would he change into a stuck up base officer? This show really seems the most subject to change, and fascinates me the most of all media wise.
I mean, there's only so many jokes you can make at the expense there.
Hank would still be Hank. The show would be pretty recognizable to a degree. Though Hank would definitely represent the sort of "lost conservative"; the American conservative during the transition from the GOP over to the new Federalist Party. Boomhauer would probably be the same. Dale would probably be a conspiracy theorist still, but with different one. Unsure of the others.
What was the “Calls for reparations and better work for the Chile” about? Is that about Nixon helping the overthrow of Socialist government Allende and other South American governments?
Yeah, pretty much. Operation Condor was definitely a blackmark on American history though it ended earlier ITTL
Political Retrospection: 2005 - 2009 Part 2
Political Retrospection: 2005 - 2009 Part 2
Western Europe
Over in the western part of Europe, things were somewhat quiet though recent developments were causing a stir. The successful legalization of same-sex marriage over in Canada, the United States and even Australia and New Zealand caused a massive surge of energy and support for similar movements over in Europe. And the various other nations in the area were beginning to go and feel the pressure a bit. And of course, there were plenty of other focus points that would become prominent in the election cycles and governance over in Europe. Over in France, a sign of the times would be seen with the two finalist candidates, as both of them would've been considered Baby Boomers by American standards. Born post-World War II and raised under the Fifth Republic, they would be the first to not be raised under de Gaulle's politics. And victory would go over to the dark horse candidate in François Bayrou, candidate of the Union for French Democracy. The party benefitted from people growing more toward it, especially with the RFR party undergoing changes with Chirac's retirement from politics. That said, alot of questions remained, especially with Haiti. Meanwhile, over in Germany, Angela Merkel would manage to become chancellor as head of the CDU/CSU coalition along with exploiting the collapse of the SPD/FDP coalition. Howeber, the rising success of the PDS has also gotten some attention. Overall, Germany has been doing rather well along with working on further economic stimulus and trying to focus on renewables though also lagging a bit behind when it comes over to nuclear power. However, they have still be doing quite all right.
Over in the Netherlands, the Labour Party would manage to retain power though it also came with Socialist Party having risen substantially in power to become a major party. While they would go and enter a coalition with the Labour Party, it remains to be seen how well it will handle. At the same time, the nation had been making waves over in Europe. After all, being one of the first to legalize same-sex marriage along wth dealing with issues of legality of certain drugs though they did follow in Portugal's footsteps in terms of decriminalization of it to deal with it along with looking into its medical purposes. One wonders what awaits in the next election. Meanwhle, speaking of Portugal, the success of their drug program along with issues with the other parties would also the Portugal Socialist Party to bounce back over into greater prominence, with the focus being on maintaining economic stability. They also maintained the course of further infrastucture building such as with high-speed rails. Spain would see similar results with their Socialists also managing to score a win, albeit more modestly here. Over in Italy, the center-right House of Freedoms manage to go and get a modest victory, but it seemed to have been a calm before a storm as the Italian political background kept changing as the Union of the Centre would exceed expectations in terms of growth. Over in Belgium, a surprising new coaliton would form between the Christian People's Party and the Reformist Movement to end up with a centralist form of government over in 2007. Just a couple years earlier, they also legalized adoptation by same-sex partners.
Central Europe
CETO continuted to stabilize itself and its growth. Albania and Croatia would be the next nations to go over and join CETO, nearly completing the inclusion of the nation. It's believed that Bosnia would be fully eligible to join in a year or so. Meanwhile, the region's political sphere continued to be influenced by the new social democrat global order along with the beginnings of their youth entering politics. Specifcially, the connection to social media and growing up in such a state meant growing shifts were beginning to appear regarding questions such as same-sex marriage and the rise of social media there. Over in Poland, the Civil Platform, a center-right party, would end up going over and taking power away from the leftists which seemed to be reflecting a new status quo over for the Poles, especially with them winning reelection over Donald Tusk. Right now, they were focusing on enjoying their benefits and slowing down on certain developments. Switching to Hungary, the fall of Viktor Orbán would send political shockwaves as the Fidesz – Hungarian Civic Alliance would crack from leadership squabbles. Orbán would meanwhile spend several years in prison for the various finanical chicanery. The Hungarian Democratic Forum would surge in popularity as a result of this. However, they still wouldn't have enough votes so they would create a coalition with the Alliance of Free Democrats- Hungarian Liberal Party.
Over in the Czech Republic, the Czech Social Democratic Party would manage to go and hold onto their power in the election of this year. However, some were wonderng how long this would last with the rumors of some new political parties rising up. For now though, the Czechs remained rather quiet and stable. Over in Slovakia, the ruling party in the Slovak Democratic and Christian Union – Democratic Party maintained their grip though the rise of the Direction – Social Democracy Party led many to believe it would likely win the next upcoming election. Back in Austria, Wolfgang Schüssel would remain Prime Minister, though the coalition of Austrian People's Party and Liberal Forum would end up fraying and he would align his party with the controversial Freedom Party of Austria. However, with the corruption charges growing at the officials, many were noted the Liberal Forum and the Social Democratic Party would see major gains in the next elections and shift the balance of party. The Nordic nations remained pretty unchanged so far though rumors were circulating in regards if any of the nations would join NATO or CETO. They also had their own issues such as the Danes' treatment of Greenland or how the Sámi are treated. Meanwhile, Montenegro would finally leave Serbia, ending the remnants of Yugoslava. Serbia continues to be ruled by the Democratic Party while the other major party, the far-right Serbian Radical Party would begin seeing massive declines as a result of various losses and other issues.
Eastern Europe
The Sovereign Union has become a topic of great fascination as of late. Having more or less finished with modernizing, they have been undergoing a cultural boom as of late. Many have noted that said boom was partially inspired by many young people's interactons with Western media in the 1990s and have branched off since into inspiration. At the same time, more original works have been made. Politically, things are going slowly but surely. With a growing new crop of politicians, the hope is on changing the various parties and political structures. However, things have been well under Chief Director Viktor Tyulkin, who would see reelection once more. On the local level, newer political parties were rising, especially over in the urban areas. Additionally, Russia along with Central Asia have started coming in term with their past and moving forward. But perhaps most notably of all is a secret government project that the Sovereign Union has been working on. A project that has been worked on for years and would likely be announced over in the oncoming years or so. Few people wonder what it was or the potential scale of it. What is know was that it took a fair bit of political power to push it through along with it being somewhat divisive, namely from a generational gap along with just coming from the delays and setbacks for a number of reasons. However, this project they claim will be quite a game changer.
Across Eastern Europe, the big thing would be over with Romania and Bulgaria going over to join the European Union, having been able to finally rise from the troubles of the past in order to do so. So far over in both Bulgaria and Romania, it was basically seeing the reformed socialists in power before they would be voted out in lieu of Christian democracy advocates along with more economically liberal folk. At the same time, they were still influenced by the social democratic global influence and many were noting that the socialists, least those who idenitify as such and may be more social democratic, have a chance to get back into power thanks to fresh faces along wth the growing frustrations at some of the corrruption along with the lackluster speed of implementation certain reform. Ukraine on the meanwhile would see the social democrats once more into prominence as they have become quite the attractive nation thanks to their neon supplies. As such, the ruling coalition of the Socialist Party of Ukraine and Peasant Paty of Ukraine organized to treat their vast resources of neon much like how Norway approaches their oil, with the hopes of implementing the money gained back into them. They would also institute close ties over with Armenia and Kartvelia. While the three were aleady part of the Organization of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation, they wanted to grow closer also and focus ties over through connecton of the Black Sea along with expand in terms of economic opportunities. Indeed, this has helped gain tec interest in Armenia and Kartvelia as a result. Additionally, non-European neighbors have also drawn in, notably Iran. Turkey meanwhile continued to focus on combatting the last of its political corruption while trying to play catch-up in a world that keeps changing.
Pretty good!
I apologize that this took so long, but work was a hassle along with just trying to figure things out and everything else.
Hope you like it! We're entering the final quarter of the timeline soon!
Love it, can't wait to see what happens next!Pretty good!
I apologize that this took so long, but work was a hassle along with just trying to figure things out and everything else.
Hope you like it! We're entering the final quarter of the timeline soon!
Thanks for the support! Yeah, 2010s are gonna seem some interesting things!
I bet there's the 2011 Arab Spring that'll be one of the events that happens, still plenty of terrible governments that seem mostly on the same path that leads to the uprising, not to mention it'll be catalist to other movements in the area.
Maybe they’ll happen earlier in 2010 perhaps? Presumably due to the more progressive western governments in power.
Political Retrospection: 2005 - 2009 Part 3
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Political Retrospection: 2005 - 2009 Part 3
The Middle East
The big event of the Middle East would be the establishment over of the Hashemite Kingdom of Arabia. The interim government would end and thus would begin the era of the constitutional monarchy, this time under the House of Hashemite, once more the masters of Mecca and Medina and moreover, the cultural pillar of arguably the strongest nation of the Middle East overall. Now wholly secular, the nation begins an uncertain future. The Neo-Baathists remain strong over in influence and various radical ideas lingered in the public discussions, such as the nationalization of various companies for the sake of prosperity and security. One major target wuld be the construction companies affiliated over to the extensively wealthy Bin Laden family, as it would help bring further wealth to the nation along with diversifying the economy. However, such talk was definitely rather concerning for the elite. Though speaking of other concerning news, Israel of all nations would be facing such things. Having seemingly settled its peace with the Palestinians decades ago, there has been a growing generational shift regarding its issues. The ultraorthodox old guard have been clashing increasingly with the rebellious and upstart youth. While this was inevitable due to the generational gap, another was the widespread availability of information through the Internet and social media, exposing young people to all sorts of new ideas and the like. For many Israeli youth, this was often how they would meet and talk with the youth of the Gazan autonomous region and exposed to their stories and ordeals. And through this, the demand for change and growth was starting to rise.
Turkey was continuing its period of introspection, reform, and recovery. Additionally, the political landscape was changed significantly as a result. The Democratic Left Party would become more and more a prominent party and while the Republican People's Party remained in influence, it was losing power. Some noted that there Republican People's Party was either becoming more conservative or at least appeared it in comparison to the others. Some other parties were rising in influence such as Freedom and Solidarity Party. In fact, more and more of the youth were identifying with that party. Turkey had managed to patch things up with Greece and working to keep rebuilding relations with its neighbors. After all, it was only 10 years ago did the war end. While tensions have cooled down significantly, it was still rather rough. Though another thing that helped was alot of the instigators no longer in power along with the blame having been shifted on nationalists and some of the old guard. As for their neighbors meanwhile, they were celeberating the end of the war too along with their rising successes. Iran continued on its path of reforms as well. Prosperity continued on for them, especially as they continied increasing their regional influence and importance. The big issues were currently on growing nuclear power so they would rely less on petrol with another being cultural changes and developments. While faith remains prominent, the addressing of SATMIN+ issues were starting to get addressed even in the Middle East. Beyond that, Iran has preparing a sort of economic arrangement to propose to its neighbors, all while the coalition of the New Toilers' Party and the Iranian Peoples' Paty remains in power. Kurdistan has stabilized and has become focusing on more cultural distinction between itself and its neighbors, something wholly encouraged by the government. One fascinating aspect of this was the growing prominence of the Yazidis. Beyond this. Kurdistan has created a week-long holiday alongside Armenia, celeberating closer ties and victories. Armenia continues with its growth with a fair number of the Aremenian diaspora encouraged to settle into the newer territory along with promoting the growth of families. Further east, Afghanistan continues to transition out of its two party plan. Khalistan and India have entered regular talking meetings. The former has continued its settlement with tech and finance while the latter continues to deal with the past political issues and economic woes. A growing proposal has been to adopt a new voting system in the hopes that may aid with the corruption issue.
Asia
The latter half of the decade would be defined by the passing of Zhao Ziyang, the CCP's General Secretary and paramount leader of China. Having led China out of the Cold War and into the new Millenium, he was arguably the second or third most powerful man of his time, trading positions with the Sovereign Union's Chief Director and surpassed only by the American President. Having led and pushed for many political reforms in China, his death would help push for province level elections. However, this also reflecting the period of transition for the CCP. While they were still the undisputed leaders of China, they were divided on what seemed like the looming possibility over on the national elections. General Secretary and new paramount leader Wen Jiabao was someone mixed on the issue. He preferred to focus more over on other issues such as rural development, transitioning into renewable energies and other issues. When asked, he noted that it would be best to consolidate the gains made and ensure the democratic process in China was running smoothly. That said, he still had some support for the grand vision. However, he was not wrong that conslidating the gains would be necessary, especially as a few of the more... anxious members have been concerned about their influence. It should be noted that while the CCP still held on power in various levels within the elections, they were stating to feel some competition. Chinese Peasants' and Workers' Democratic Party (described as an agrarian libretarian socialist party), Chinese Democratic Socialist Party (a democatic socialist party) and the Chinese Democatic League (a social democratic party) were all becoming more and more prominent in their own right. While not having powerful enough to challenge the CCP yet, they were making their voices heard.
Over in the Koreas, the leaders of North and South Korea, Kim Pyong-il and Roh Moo-hyun respectively, would decide on pushing the reunification date by a few more years thanks to an extension within the treaty. However, they would move closer together still. Beyond the customs union and shared market, they would transition into an economic and monetary union during the latter half of the decade to further ease the transition and allow the people to better mix together. "De-Kimification" was still an ongoing process though there would still be signs of the generation gaps present. Over in Japan, news would come as some of its bigger parties would end up losing. The new winning party would be the Social Democratic Party, which had eaten large chunks of the Democratic Party. Meanwhile, the Liberal Democratic Party would also see some of its members move to the Komeito Party. This reflects a growing desire over from reforms in Japan though some analysts are saying that this is only scratching the surface of it. Southeast Asia meanwhile had stabilized itself and had been trying to balance being influenced by the Japanese and Chinese, along with the Americans over for that better. While Cambodia still needs some work, it is still thankfully improving along with Vietnam, Laos, Thailan and Myanmar. This is seen from the growing competition of Microsoft and Sun Microsystems, especially as the latter would see growing Japanese ownership of the company. Indonesia and Malaysia were finally seeing some growing success regarding tackling political corruption so far, which has been quite encouraging.
Africa
South Africa continued its path toward reform under Mandela's successor over with Thabo Mbeki. Fortunately, with how at ease things were over in the decade, it meant implementing any reforms would be easier to do. All the while, they would be trying to go and become a regional leader. Zaire has also been improving steadily and becoming a prominent force to be reckoned with. It has also begun taking more inspiration over from the PRC, namely by having nationalized most of its businesses. More specifcially, many of the companies now managing mining operations have fallen under state ownership. While this was a rather surprising move, many believe that this is done in order to help bring further income to the nation as more and more people are interested in electronics. At the same time, there have been some concerns over on the increased police presence though the Zairian government has noted this is to combat potential smuggling operations and that it was only a temporary measure. They have also begun involving themselves in the affairs of their neighbors, mainly the Central African Republic, due to corruption concerns there. Many have also seen Zaire grow close to Brazil of all nations, which some may see as part of a desire to become more and more world powers by staying closer together. Madagascar continues to grow closer to China despite France's best attempts though some wonder if other nations may come in, such as with South Africa. Moving closer up north, Ethiopia continues the flexing of its newfound status of a regional power through its continued involvement in Somalia. Indeed, with a growing number of investment, some have also noted a growing conversion to Tewahedo Christianity within Somalia, especially among women and the youth. That said, most aren't concerned on it, viewing it more as a fad than anything else that may not have much long-term impact in terms of demographics.
Moving further west, the western coast over of Africa has also seen some growing development with Nigeria cementing itself as the favorite to becoming a regional power. And Nigeria was taking advantage of this by beginning to invest more and more into the expansion of its culture. The hope being to help usher in a new era of Afrcian entertainment through art and music along with the newer forms of media. At the same time, they were also dealing with some of the lingering tensions regarding the population divide. Further up north, alot was still happening. Gaddafi's grip on Libya was weakneing due to the increasing protests against him as a result of his autocracy. Morocco meanwhile was starting to chafe more and more from American pressure regarding Sahrawi Republic. Egypt has continued to been going further to improve. Overall in northern Africa, there have been growing movements from the various minorities for greater respect and rights. From the Coptic Christians over in Egypt and the Amazighs over in Morocco, there is a fascinating growing solidarity in display here, especially given that these groups were present prior to the Arab expansions of old. Overall though, Africa is continuing past its long recover over from the periods of colonization and the future is still looking promising.
That's good, what matters is you're still updating the timeline.Sorry this took so long, but man, it can be daunting figuring out what is happening